Sunday, June 11, 2006

Twenty-Four Hours Daily

We always state that we have given our head to Guru Sahib, we have taken Ammrit, we will walk backwards in Guru Sahibs Hazooree because we don’t want to turn our back towards Guru Sahib, we say we are in Hukum, we say we keep Guru Sahibs Tat (true) Rehit, we say we rise early in the mornings, we say we keep every Asool (rule) a Gursikh should keep, in terms of eating only at the house of other Amritdhaaree gursikhs, only eating out of the hands of other Sarbloh Bibekee Gursikhs, always wearing Baanaa. WE SAY WE WILL NEVER TURN OUR BACK ON GURU SAHIB.

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਧਿਆਇ ਤੂੰ ਗੁਣ ਗੋਇੰਦ ਨਿਤ ਗਾਉ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
aath pehur prubh dhiaae thoon gun goeindh nith gaao
Twenty-four hours a day, meditate on God. Constantly sing the Glories of the Lord of the Universe. 1Pause

ਤਿਸ ਕੀ ਸਰਨੀ ਪਰੁ ਮਨਾ ਜਿਸੁ ਜੇਵਡੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਇ ॥
this kee surunee pur munaa jis jaevudd avur n koe
Seek His Shelter, O my mind; there is no other as Great as He.

Lets ask ourselves are we really in Hukum?
Have we already turned our back towards Guru Sahib?
Have we really given our head to Guru Sahib?
Have we really tasted the true Ammrit?
Do we really keep the Rehit Guru Sahib is asking us to keep, the Rehit stated in Guru Granth Sahib again and again?
We rise early in the mornings but are we awake for the rest of the day?

We keep the Rehit of our physical body in terms of what goes in, but do we eat the real food, the food in which will purify our mind, body and soul, the food in which will liberate us and liberate the blessed ones around us, are we eating drinking and sleeping this food?
We are wearing the Baanaa on the outside, what state is our Baanaa on the inside?
What is the state of the Baanaa of the mind?

ਜੀਅ ਜੰਤ ਸਭਿ ਜਿਨਿ ਕੀਏ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਤਿਸੁ ਜਾਪਿ ॥
jeea junth sabh jin keeeae aath pehur this jaap
Meditate twenty-four hours a day on the One who created all beings and creatures.

What is the true Rehit, Hukum (command) given to us by Guru Sahib in Guru Granth Sahib Jee, there is one Hukum and that is the command of Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas (24/7) with every breath. Do we follow this command? If we don’t we are still Manmukhs following the way of this filthy mind, Guru Sahib says in Gurbaanee, if we miss Naam for one second this is a thought wasted in evil, this is the time we are living in Kaljug, (the age of darkness), when we are remembering the beautiful feet of Guru Sahib Jee this is the time we are living in Satjug (the age of truth). Kaljug and Satjug is a state of mind we can live in whichever state we choose the choice is ours, through sincere effort and blessing we will live in the state of Satjug, through apathy and laziness we live in the state of Kaljug, the choice is ours.

ਹਲਤਿ ਪਲਤਿ ਮੁਖ ਊਜਲੇ ਸਾਚੇ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਸਾਰਿ ॥
hulath pulath mukh oojulae saachae kae gun saar
In this world and in the world hereafter, radiant are the faces of those who cherish and enshrine the Glories of the True Lord.

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਗੁਣ ਸਾਰਦੇ ਰਤੇ ਰੰਗਿ ਅਪਾਰ ॥
aath pehur gun saarudhae ruthae rung apaar
Twenty-four hours a day, they lovingly dwell upon His Glories; they are imbued with His Infinite Love.

What is the reason we do not follow this Hukum of Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas? But we are willing to keep physical Rehits to the extreme and think Guru Sahib will bless us for keeping such Rehits without the vaasaa (presence) of Naam within us, the only time Guru Sahib will bless his Gursikhs with Chardee kallaa is when we Jap Naam Athai Pehar with every breath, this is the Hukum we choose to ignore or we find very difficult, but this is the Hukum in which will only bring us Divine-knowledge, love, compassion, and the liberation of many souls.

ਸਾਚੀ ਪੂੰਜੀ ਸਚੁ ਸੰਜਮੋ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਉ ॥
saachee poonjee such sunjumo aath pehur gun gaao
The True Capital, and the True Way of Life, comes by chanting His Glories, twenty-four hours a day.

We say we should never turn our back towards Guru Sahib in his Hazooree, Daas agrees, but in reality we turn our back towards Guru Sahib every second of the day, because in reality we are not in Guru Sahibs Hukum and we are not following his command. Guru Sahib says in Gurbaanee, my back will be towards the one who turns his back towards God by not remembering the one who created us and give us the opportunity of human life to become one with God again. Our Gurus were, are and will only be in love with the almighty Lord and will only bless the ones who are in love with the almighty Lord Vaahiguroo.

ਸਚੁ ਖਾਣਾ ਸਚੁ ਪੈਨਣਾ ਸਚੇ ਸਚਾ ਨਾਉ ॥੨॥
such khaanaa such painunaa suchae suchaa naao
True is the food, and true are the clothes, of those who chant the True Name of the True One. 2

ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਨ ਵਿਸਰੈ ਸਫਲੁ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਆਪਿ ॥
saas giraas n visurai suful moorath gur aap
With each breath and morsel of food, do not forget the Guru, the Embodiment of Fulfillment.

ਗੁਰ ਜੇਵਡੁ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦਿਸਈ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਤਿਸੁ ਜਾਪਿ ॥
gur jaevudd avur n dhisee aath pehur this jaap
None is seen to be as great as the Guru. Meditate on Him twenty-four hours a day.

When we took Ammrit the Panj asked us for our heads and we promised them from that day our head was Guru Sahibs, when Guru Jee asked for our heads he explained, this death is even more difficult than physical death, even then we agreed and said, that is fine, Guru Jee said it is sharper than a Sword and finer than a Hair will you be able to play this game of love? We all agreed, Guru Jee taught us how to Meditate and said take this away with you and remember the name with every breath, we all agreed, Guru Jee told us our Rehit we all agreed, we all came in crying and dying for Ammrit and nobody would have liked to be turned away, but did we realise what we are actually getting ourselves in to? Did we realise from this day onwards our old self is dead and we are born again through Amrit, Rehit and Naam? Have we really given our head to Guru Sahib? Sorry to say most of us lied to Guru Sahib, as we have not sold our minds to Guru Sahib through Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, but this is a must do in the rules of Guru Jee, if we do not meditate Athai Pehar, this might sound strong but we have not really given our heads to Guru Sahib. This is the reason in the Praatan (earlier) times Gursikhs had to sit through full Akhand Paaths in order to receive Amrit-Naam, even then some were tested and sent back without being blessed with Ammrit. We walk in to an Amrit Sanchaar knowing the Panj will not physically take our heads so we have no Bhea (fear), this is why Guru Sahib physically took the heads of our beloved Panj Pyaare. WE ONLY GIVE OUR HEAD WHEN WE GIVE OUR MIND TO GURU SAHIB AND THROUGH PURIFICATION OF NAAM.

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਈਐ ਬਿਸਰੁ ਨ ਕੋਈ ਸਾਸਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥
aath pehur govindh gun gaaeeai bisur n koee saasaa jeeo
Twenty-four hours a day, sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord of the Universe. Do not forget Him, for even one breath. 1

Have we really tasted the true Amrit? What is Amrit? Mrit means death, Amrit means the opposite; immortal, how do we become immortal beings? Only through Naam will we become immortal beings. The true Ammrit is Amrit-Naam, this is the substance in which will liberate us and liberate thousands around us, but to awaken this substance of Ammrit inside us we have to take the support of Amrit-Naam through single minded Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, when this Amrit rises from the Naval to the Dasam Duaar and one becomes in touch with the third world this is the time when one becomes immortal and lives ones life in ecstasy, in total detachment of the World whilst living in the World. THIS IS TRUE AMRIT; ATHAI PEHAR NAAM ABHIYAAS.

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਤੁਧੁ ਜਾਪੇ ਪਵਨਾ ॥
aath pehur thudh jaapae puvunaa
Twenty-four hours a day, the wind breathes Your Name.

Even the Wind meditates on God 24/7, why shouldn’t we?

We all talk about keeping physical Rehit, Daas agrees it is very important in Gursikhi to keep physical Rehit and self-discipline, but Daas would also like to say we as Gursikhs put more emphasis on physical Rehit than Man Di Rehit (the Rehit of the mind), they are both as important as each other, one cannot live without the other, they both tie hand in hand, but Daas believes if we keep extreme physical Rehits we should most definitely keep an extreme Man Di Rehit (discipline of mind), as this is the Rehit repeated to us by the Gurus, Bhagats, and Bhatts in the Guru Granth Sahib. Just as we feel lost making mistakes or slacking in our physical Rehit we should feel even more lost and slack if not Japing Naam, as nothing is Parvaan (accepted) if it is not accompanied by the Lords Name Vahiguroo, if it is not accompanied by the Lords name it becomes SiaaNap (cleverness), there should strictly be no Til (slacking) when Japping the Lords name, as there should be no slack in our physical Rehit.

Daas has heard Gursikhs in the past saying only those who keep the Rehit of Sarbloh Bibek are the true RehitVaan Gursikhs, this is a very narrow minded, judgemental of others and egotistical statement, as there were, are, and always will be very spiritual Gursikhs in the Panth without keeping the Rehit of Sarbloh, the true Gurmukh keeps this additional Rehit but never emphasises one can only be Pooran (pure) through keeping this Rehit, as one can be liberated without the additional Rehit of Sarbloh. We need to accept others and not judge them for being Tillay (slack), as they might be a lot more Abhiyaasee than us, and we will never know what Karam (deeds) an individual Soul has brought with it, we need to focus on our own individual Jeevans (lives) and leave the rest to Guru Sahib, get rid of the 'I' and let people be. Daas has respect for those Gursikhs who adopt such sacrifice in their life, but Daas has to say this Rehit is worthless without the breath of Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas. Guru Sahib says the true Warrior and RehitVaan Gursikh is the one who battles with ones mind with every breath of ones life. This is the most difficult Rehit to keep (Samaal), but one becomes the true Soora (warrior) in the eyes of the Lord.

ਨਾਨਕ ਸੋ ਸੂਰਾ ਵਰੀਆਮੁ ਜਿਨਿ ਵਿਚਹੁ ਦੁਸਟੁ ਅਹੰਕਰਣੁ ਮਾਰਿਆ ॥
naanuk so sooraa vureeaam jin vichuhu dhusutt ahunkurun maariaa
O Nanak, he is a brave warrior, who conquers and subdues his vicious inner ego.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਾਲਾਹਿ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਵਾਰਿਆ ॥
gurumukh naam saalaahi junum suvaariaa
Praising the Naam, the Name of the Lord, the Gurmukhs redeem their lives.

ਆਪਿ ਹੋਆ ਸਦਾ ਮੁਕਤੁ ਸਭੁ ਕੁਲੁ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਿਆ ॥
aap hoaa sudhaa mukuth subh kul nisuthaariaa
They themselves are liberated forever, and they save all their ancestors.

ਸੋਹਨਿ ਸਚਿ ਦੁਆਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਪਿਆਰਿਆ ॥
sohan sach dhuaar naam piaariaa
Those who love the Naam look beauteous at the Gate of Truth.

ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮਰਹਿ ਅਹੰਕਾਰਿ ਮਰਣੁ ਵਿਗਾੜਿਆ ॥
munumukh murehi ahunkaar murun vigaarriaa
The self-willed manmukhs die in egotism-even their death is painfully ugly.

ਸਭੋ ਵਰਤੈ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਕਿਆ ਕਰਿਹ ਿਵਚਾਿਰਆ ॥
subho vuruthai hukum kiaa kurehi vichaariaa
Everything happens according to the Lord's Will; what can the poor people do?

ਆਪਹੁ ਦੂਜੈ ਲਗਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ॥
aapuhu dhoojai lag khusum visaariaa
Attached to self-conceit and duality, they have forgotten their Lord and Master.

ਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਨਾਵੈ ਸਭੁ ਦੁਖੁ ਸੁਖੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ॥੧॥
naanuk bin naavai subh dhukh sukh visaariaa
O Nanak, without the Name, everything is painful, and happiness is forgotten. 1


IT IS A MUST DO BY GURU SAHIB OF ATHAI PEHAR NAAM ABHIYAAS WITH EVERY BREATH, IF WE ARE KEEPING A CERTAIN REHIT WHILST NOT JAPING NAAM WE ARE OUT OF HUKUM.

ਜਿਨਿ ਦੀਨੀ ਸੋਭਾ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥
jin dheenee sobhaa vaddiaaee
He has given you fame and greatness;

ਤਿਸੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਉ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਧਿਆਈ ॥੧॥
this prubh ko aath pehur dhiaaee
meditate on that God, twenty-four hours a day. 1

We rise early in the mornings do a solid Amrit Velaa, but are we awake for the rest of the day? NO, most of the time we are asleep during the day, as we are not in Hukum of Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, and whilst doing our worldly chores we are not supported by Naam, for this we will never find peace and never be blessed by Guru Sahib, holding the Naam close to the Heart is a must do for a Gursikh. We do Amrit velaa in a morning our whole life should be an Amrit Velaa, obviously the concentration will be slightly weaker to begin with, but as time goes on the concentration will come in to Tikkaa (steady) develop its self further, and there will be a time when the world seems totally false and we will be able to totally switch off from the world, there will definitely be a time with Guru Sahibs kirpaa (blessing) when our lives will become a walking Amrit Vela. Some people will disagree and say they don’t want this state of mind, but through Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, this state of mind will be blessed to us by Guru Sahib when Guru Sahib knows we can do its Samaal (keep it controlled). There are many stages, there becomes times when Gursikhs want to get up and dance through the ecstasy of Naam and Shabad, but these states of mind need to be controlled by the individuals. This is also mentioned in Gurbaanee as Nirt.

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਜਿਹਵੇ ਆਰਾਿਧ ॥ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਆਗਾਿਧ ॥
aath pehur jihuvae aaraadh
Twenty-four hours a day, O tongue, dwell upon God, the Unfathomable, Supreme Lord and Master.

ਈਹਾ ਊਹਾ ਸਦਾ ਸੁਹੇਲੀ ॥
eehaa oohaa sudhaa suhaelee
Here and hereafter, you shall be happy forever.

We keep the Rehit of our physical body in terms of what goes in, but do we eat the real food, the food in which will purify our mind, body and soul, the food in which will liberate us and liberate the blessed ones around us, are we eating drinking and sleeping this food? NO most of us are not eating, drinking and sleeping this food, Naam is the only form of food in which will purify this filthy mind been blackened for many lifetimes, nothing else will not even be able to scratch a speck of dirt off this filthy mind. We need to make Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas our food, we cannot live without food just as the fish cannot live without water and the Bhagats cannot live without Naam. If Naam has the power to purify this filthy mind and liberate our soul, don’t we think it can purify what goes inside us physically? If what we eat and touch is accompanied by the breath of the Lords name, then it is also blessed and purified by God, as there is no larger power than God. Guru Sahib says in Gurbaanee Naam is the Universe, so why can't it purify what goes inside us physically? It can but a Gursikh should always strive for self discipline and realise there is no larger Rehit than the Rehit of the mind, conquer the mind through Athai Pehar Abhiyaas and we conquer the Universe. We always judge others by saying we will not eat from others, as they are not Amritdhaaree and are not blessing the food they cook through the name of the Lord, Daas agrees but have we ever asked ourselves the question, if they are not meditating whilst cooking, are we meditating whilst eating, because if we are the food we eat will be purified through Naam. We should never judge others we should practice being the dust of the feet of all beings, as this is the state of mind of a Pooran Gursikh. We should try to look at Sikhee through the eyes of God, as God loves all beings equally and would never discriminate against any other, isn’t this the state of mind we want, sometimes we loose our loving state of mind and simple principles of Gurmat, e.g. compassion, tolerance, contentment, patience, love, giving and many other virtues through extreme rules, which in the end without realising leads to ignorance and haumai (ego)

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪੂਜਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਪੈਰ ॥੧॥
aath pehur poojuhu gur pair
Twenty-four hours a day, I worship the Guru's Feet. 1

ਅਬ ਮਤਿ ਬਿਨਸੀ ਦੁਸਟ ਬਿਗਾਨੀ ॥
ab math binusee dhusutt bigaanee
Now, my evil sense of alienation is eliminated,

How does Naam liberate people around us? Firstly only blessed ones by Guru Sahib will be attracted in to the Sangat of Abhiyaasees, secondly our profit of Naam will rub off on them through Aura energy and blessing of Guru Sahib, this strengthens their minds and also makes them Abhiyaasees, in the same way people will be attracted to this individual also, it becomes a circle. Bhai Randhir Singh and Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindraawaale were great examples; they were always in the sangat of Abhiyaasee Gursikhs and vice versa.

ਤਿਆਗਿ ਸਗਲ ਸਿਆਣਪਾ ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਜਾਪਿ ॥੨॥
thiaag sugul siaanupaa aath pehur prubh jaap
So renounce all your cleverness, and meditate on God, twenty-four hours a day. 2

We are wearing the Baanaa on the outside, what state is our Baanaa like on the inside?
What is the state of the Baanaa of the mind? The true Baanaa is purifying the Baanaa of the mind with Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, Naam is the Baanaa we should be wearing on the inside at all times, once the Baanaa of the mind is cleansed through Naam and becomes Nirmal (pure) then we will most definitely be forced to wear the uniform of the Khalsa to cover our Sareer (body) on the outside. Naam comes before everything, everything comes from Naam, we slowly reach the state of Sehj (Nivaana) through Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, and life becomes very much easier to live, Girastee (householders life) does not affect such blessed souls, and this is when we live in the true Hukum of Guru Sahib which is Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas, please remember Guru Sahib has told us there is nothing equal to Naam. BHUL CHUK MAAF.

ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਿਸਮਰਹੁ ਚਲੈ ਤੇਰੈ ਸਾਥੇ ॥
aath pehur har naam simuruhu chulai thaerai saathae
Twenty-four hours a day, dwell upon the Lord's Name in meditation; it alone shall go along with you.

Only the profit of Naam shall go with our soul to the world here after and nothing else.

ਸੇ ਭਗਤ ਸੇ ਤਤੁ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਜਿਨ ਕਉ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਮਨਾਏ ॥੬॥
sae bhuguth sae thuth giaanee jin ko hukum munaaeae
They are devotees, with the essence of spiritual wisdom, who obey the Hukam of His Command. 6

ਏਹਾ ਭਗਤਿ ਸਚੇ ਸਿਉ ਲਿਵ ਲਾਗੈ ਬਿਨੁ ਸੇਵਾ ਭਗਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਈ ॥
eaehaa bhugath suchae sio liv laagai bin saevaa bhugath n hoee
This is devotional worship, that one loves the True Lord; without service, one cannot be a devotee.

ਜੀਵਤੁ ਮਰੈ ਤਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਬੀਚਾਰੈ ਤਾ ਸਚੁ ਪਾਵੈ ਕੋਈ ॥੭॥
jeevuth murai thaa subudh beechaarai thaa such paavai koee
If one remains dead while yet alive, he reflects upon the Shabad, and then, he obtains the True Lord. 7

Only through following Hukum of Athai Pehar Naam Abhiyaas will we be recognised as true devotees of the Lord Vahiguroo.

**Next weeks article, Sangat.**

24 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonderful post. Lets all now try and purify our minds through this one naam. The ones who don't possess this bueatiful naam are truley 'bhagheen' and if Guru Sahib does kirpa maybe they will also get a chance to know about naam.
Thank you veer jee for this post. Daas has learnt alot from it. Hope Guru Sahib blesses you with more seva. Please also do ardaas for daas.

5:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excellent post Bhai Sahib!!!

7:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Khalsa jio, you said 24h abhiyaas.. but sleep is important also.. its necessary for abhiyaas ..so your saying inorder for the shabad dhun do start within you have to stay awake day and night? Have that much vairag? amrit means without death, death only come to those that are living, those that die before guru sahib are free from death while living... but about the amrit.. A Singh I know is blessed with this but he doesn’t do 24h.. he does all day after amrit vela but he sleeps at night, so is this what you mean? or do you mean attain a stage through grace, in which simran is continous even while you are sleeping? if you cantanswer here then email me---> gupt_abhiyaas2@hotmail.com

oh yeah if someone doesnt believe that guru sahib is puran can they still get kirpa? becuase a lot of people do ninda of raag mala, so is it possible for them to attain bramh gian from guru sahib, just curious, I want to hear what you have to say about it? email me dont want to cause problems here.

thanks khalsa jio

12:32 PM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

It is all to do with ones past karam (deeds) and blessing from guru sahib, one does not need to stay up all night and jap naam, one needs to jap naam whilst in a conscious state with every breath of true love and concentration in order for guru sahib and god to bless one with ajapa jaap, this is the state when naam becomes one with the breath it is not a very difficult state to reach however it does take a lot of effort and commitment, we need to always be aware naam is with us, this is the state when naam is heard by the inner ears whilst sleeping. However naam abhiyaasee gursikhs tend to sleep very little, but when they sleep they are aware naam is residing inside them, 4 hours is maximum sleep gursikh needs, (please refer to amritvela article). Yes daas means 24/7 even whilst sleeping be aware of naam.

Bhai sahib jee this is a very controversial question, daas will try to answer the best daas can for sangat and yourself. Firstly take a look at the chardeekallah gursikhs of the panth, Bhai sahib Bhai Randheer Singh believed raag maalaa was not bani, baba Gurbachan Singh Bhindrawale believed raag maala was bani, there has been many scholars who have tried to convince the panth if raag maalaa is bani or not, sometimes we feel we have to make deciscions in life because we follow a certain jathebandee (group), we have to make a deciscion when reading bani whether to read raag maalaa or not, especially when doing sehj paaths we need to know whether to stop at raag maalaa or read it. The akaal takht made a deciscion raag maalaa will be in every saroop it is up to the indvidual if they read it or not.

Now lets ask ourselves some question will we have as much gyaan, kamaaee, and spiritual wisdom as the 2 gursikhs mentioned above? which one shall we believe? or are we more siaane (clever) than both of them? Which one is right and which one is wrong? Daas would not like to answer any of these quetions, as these were great gursikhs who sacrificed the whole of their jeevan for the panth.

your question was, if someone does not read raagmaalaa they do not believe in pooran guru, will they be blessed?

They have as much satkaar (respect) for guru sahib as much as you do this is the reason why they are not reading it because they believe it is not bani, in this case they dont want to read raagmaalaa and disrespect their guru, just as you believe raagmaalaa is bani so you will read it, and if you dont you will feel you have disrespected your guru by not reading the last page of guru sahib.

Guru sahib will bless both with brhamgyaanthaa di avasthaa, as god looks for the love of the subconscious mind, god looks at ones true intentions, god searches for true hearts and both will be blessed, as both intentions are positive in not to bring any disrespect to guru sahib, both will give their lives for guru sahibs satkaar.

The true gurmukh has the divine wisdom of guru sahib and will never fall in to the trap of controversial debates, one will always rise above stay steadfast on naam and leave the rest in guru sahibs bhaana (sweet will). If one is ever confused or stuck in life do ardaas to guru sahib and ask guru sahib to forgive ones mistakes, as ones intentions always want to be positive on the path of gurmat, never judge others, knowone is wrong and knowone is right. only he/she is right who stays humble to guru sahibs will and lives with the breath of naam by their side, they are the true blessed ones.

Please forgive daas for any mistakes.

3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

khalsa jio, another question a singh i know he says his heart hurts while doing simran, why is this?

7:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

singh sahib ji, you have only mentioned 2 gursikhs, true bhai sahib bhai randheer singh ji said that raag mala isnt bani, but there are countless gursikhs that do say that raag mala is bani. This includes gursikhs such as baba nand singh ji, that used to say that guru granth sahib mahraj is living talking guru nanak dev ji.

8:14 PM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

Anonymous said...
khalsa jio, another question a singh i know he says his heart hurts while doing simran, why is this?

Daas is not sure whether you mean here, do you mean spiritually his Heart hurts or physically?


Anonymous Jee,

There are countless Gursikhs on both sides of the arguement. Some say Raag maalaa is Bani and some say it is not. It is up to the individual to decide what they believe.

Daas is not saying one side is wrong or one side is wrong, as Daas has mentioned in the above post.

Daas will not be replying to any more messages in regard to Raag Maala.

3:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gurmuK im`Tw bolxw jo bolY soeI jp jwpY]

guramukh mt(h)iaa bolanaa jo bolai soee jap jaapai||

The polite language of a Sikh brings out what he thinks in his mind and heart.



gurmuK AKIN dyKxw bRhm iDAwn Dry Awp suAwpY]

guramukh akhee(n) dhaekhanaa breham dhhiaan dhharae aap suaapai||

A Sikh beholds God everywhere with his own eyes, and that is equal to a yogi's meditation.



gurmuK sunxw surq kr pMc Sbd gur Sbd AlwpY]

guramukh sunanaa surath kar pa(n)ch shabadh gur shabadh alaapai||

When a Sikh listens attentively to, or himself sings, the word of God, that is equal to the five ecstatic sounds in the brain of a yogi.



gurmuK ikrq kmwvxI nmskwr fMfauq is\wpY]

guramukh kirath kamaavanee namasakaar dda(n)ddouth sin(j)aapai||

Earning livelihood with his hands by a Sikh is equal to the obeisance and prostration (of Hindus).



gurmuK mwrg clxw prdKxw pUrn prqwpY]

guramukh maarag chalanaa paradhakhanaa pooran parathaapai||

When, the gurmukh, walks to behold the Guru, that is equal to an extremely holy circumambulation.



gurmuK Kwxw pYnxw jg Bog sMjog pCwpY]

guramukh khaanaa painanaa jag bhog sa(n)jog pashhaapai||

When the Guru oriented person eats and clothes himself, that is equal to the performance of Hindu sacrifice and offering.



gurmuK svx smwiD hY AwpY Awp n Qwp aQwpY]

guramukh savan samaadhh hai aapai aap n thhaap ouathhaapai||

When gurmukh sleeps, that is equal to a yogi's trance and the gunnukh withdraws not his thoughts from the object (God the Guru) of his concentration.



GrbwrI jIvn mukiq lhr nhIN lb loB ibAwpY]

gharabaaree jeevan mukath lehar nehee(n) lab lobh biaapai||

The householder is liberated in life; he is not afraid of the waves of the world's ocean and fear does not enter his heart.



pwr pvy lµG vrY srwpY ]ñø]

paar pavae la(n)gh varai saraapai ||aa||

He goes beyond the region of blessings and curses, and does not utter them.

6:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Khalsa Ji, it hurts physically, giani thakur singh ji mentioned something like that also, that as simran moves lower heart does hurt or sometimes the digestive tract begins to make noises. So the heart hurting is that suppose to happen? have you experienced it? the singh tries to do simran not with the breath but the beat that comes from within him, possibly his heart beat. mahraj has blessed him with amrit rus... amrit is dripping from his head, he was asking me how he can progress to stage of gian, how can he get mahraj jis happiness and recieve this stage. maybe you can answer these questions?

10:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee.

We both know that brahmgyanis have divine knowledge and they become god. Arent Brahmgyanis suppose to know whether something is right or wrong. For example people say bhai sahib randhir singh and baba gurbachan singh were brahmgyanis, this means they are god, should'nt they know the trust if raag mala is bani or not. I am not offending bhai sahib randhir singh and baba gurbachan singh, they were great gurmukhs!!! Please answer the question bhai sahib jee!!

12:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i've heard from a gursikh week ago, that bhai sahib bhai randheer singh ji did ardas that raag maala isn't bani before the jup tup they did, this is when there were with teja singh, and they stuck with that ardas. no offense intented to anyone, this is just what i have heard, bhul chuk maff

2:01 PM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

Daas has not experienced the hurting of the heart in abhiyaas.
Bhai sahib jee your friend should not have a desire to reach any khand, he should only have a desire to become one with the lord and leave the rest to guru sahib. Gursikhs do abhiyaas to liberate the soul and reunite it with god, this is the highest state. The stage of gyaan will come with every breath of abhiyaas, when one meditates with every breath guru sahb will guide one spiritually through girastee jeevan. (please refer to the divine knowledge post).

Bhai sahib jee it is true what you are saying brhamgyanee becomes like god and they have divine wisdom, like daas has mentioned in previous posts once one reaches the state of brhamgyaantaa then only naam and god become the true religion. Sorry daas can not answer if bhai randhir singh or baba Gurbachan singh were brhamgyaanees, as daas is not brhamgyaanee, only a brhamgyaanee knows the state of another brhamgyaanee.

Bentee to sangat daas would not like to debate on raagmaalaa, daas would like to say if one reads the post above on raagmaalaa with an open mind one will find their answers, also those who japna naam and live in the ras of naam and bani never get in to controversial debates like raagmaalaa which have already been decided by the panth and akaal takht.

Please dont waste your time make a decision on raagmaalaa if you feel you have to and live in guru sahibs hukum by meditating with every breath (athai pehar)

2:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

awesome khalsa jee, also another question, another singh i know says that with the amrit rus he gets, the back of his head and some times the top of his head gets cold, but when the head goes cold it brings ecstacy but amrit is not tasted in the mouth but he feels it in his head dripping, when he wants he can have it in his mouth but the heads not cold anymore. which way is right? should he be tasting it in the mouth or his head feeling cold? i heard this also in a katha by baba kartar singh ji that gursikhs heads go cold, why is this? have you experienced this? is this normal? is medical attention necessary, like can something go wrong in the head?

7:39 PM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

This is right when gursikhs do abhiyaas and amrit ras reaches the higher concsious a gursikh feels the ras in the head area, yes it is usually a numming feeling, no one does not need medical advice, when one feels this ecstasy and sensation one is uplifted and always wants to experince it, this is the state when the dhiaan of naam reaches the head area (please refer to the naam drug and rom rom articles, your questions should be answered in more depth.

there is no taste to the amrit ras when it is in the mouth , but naturally through anand one tends to lick their lips, one is aware of this, as this usually happens when one sits in a keertan listens to the beautiful praises of the lord whilst japping naam.

Bhai sahib jee you ask which way is right, if one is experiencing ecstasy and anand then one should know what they are doing is very peaceful, one should not worry too much about experiences, as guru sahib will guide one with divine wisdom whilst experiencing ras.

Also never fall in to the trap of asking people what they experience, one can destroy their personal jeevan in doing so, as every soul experiences different according to their past karam, guru jee will bless his abhiyaasees according to their karam they will not develop through personal siaanap, so please jap naam athai pehar dont worry about what is right or wrong and leave all phal (fruit) to guru sahib.

Daas hopes this has answered your question, please forgive daas for any mistakes.

1:16 PM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

This is right when gursikhs do abhiyaas and amrit ras reaches the higher concsious a gursikh feels the ras in the head area, yes it is usually a numming feeling, no one does not need medical advice, when one feels this ecstasy and sensation one is uplifted and always wants to experince it, this is the state when the dhiaan of naam reaches the head area (please refer to the naam drug and rom rom articles, your questions should be answered in more depth.

there is no taste to the amrit ras when it is in the mouth , but naturally through anand one tends to lick their lips, one is aware of this, as this usually happens when one sits in a keertan listens to the beautiful praises of the lord whilst japping naam.

Bhai sahib jee you ask which way is right, if one is experiencing ecstasy and anand then one should know what they are doing is very peaceful, one should not worry too much about experiences, as guru sahib will guide one with divine wisdom whilst experiencing ras.

Also never fall in to the trap of asking people what they experience, one can destroy their personal jeevan in doing so, as every soul experiences different according to their past karam, guru jee will bless his abhiyaasees according to their karam they will not develop through personal siaanap, so please jap naam athai pehar dont worry about what is right or wrong and leave all phal (fruit) to guru sahib.

Daas hopes this has answered your question, please forgive daas for any mistakes.

1:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

khalsa jee, your awesome!

2:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

khalsa jee, another question, how much vairag should a sikh have for his guru? can you include some inspiring sakis?

2:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

khalsa jee, can your provide a link to the rom rom article, many thanks

3:29 PM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

http://abhiyaas.blogspot.com/2006/03/rom-rom.html - Rom Rom Article

http://abhiyaas.blogspot.com/2006/02/naam-drug.html - Naam Drug Article.

2:32 AM  
Blogger Sifar said...

Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee jeoo..

WaheGuru jee ka Khalsa, WaheGuru jee Kee Fatehe...

Satbachan Guru de piyareyoo. I guess I, a maha moorakh should get this into my head. Ardaas done by Gur de piyre like you will work for me.

8:02 AM  
Blogger Gupt Wannabe Naam Abhiyaasee said...

anonymous said...
khalsa jee, another question, how much vairag should a sikh have for his guru? can you include some inspiring sakis?

...............

Bairaag is something that comes naturally and is uncontrollable. Bairaag is the state when one cannot live without the guru even for one second. You should consider reading the life of the Gurus, Guru Angad dev jee, this is true Bairaag.

12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so thats when the sikh begins to recite the naam 24h daily?

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so thats when the sikh begins to recite the naam 24h daily?

2:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bhai sahib ji, how can one jap naam when reading gurbani. I am confused about that because I can do only one and loose the other one.

10:34 AM  

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